Re: Void areas between pan and hull

From: Alan Hebert <ahebert_at_california.com>
Date: Thu 06 Dec 2001 - 16:24:52 PST
To: Steve Hutchinson <Shutchinson@dutragroup.com>


I have bad news for you. Those little holes that look like they drain water from under the settees into the sump? Yeah those?

At least on my boat, the DON'T drain water into the sump. Try poking around on the other side of those little holes, back there under the settee. You'll discover that the space where the water tank and fuel tank are, yeah there at the inside edge of the sette....well, there are no draining holes opposite the holes you see in the sides of the sum;. What you'll find (assuming Tortuga is built like Wisdom is) is that the port and starboard holes into the sump actually drain a small space between the sump (which is part of the liner) and the structural slab of 'glass that makes up the settee front. In fact, there's no direct path from the space under the settees to the sump without sloshing a LONG way out of the way, forward around the head holding tank on port, or aft past the galley island, on starboard. If water goes forward around the head holding tank there are a couple of 2 inch holes that let water communicate with the space that drains into the sump. It also lets water slosh around over the fiberglass beam that transversley supports the mast, and that the main bulkhead is attached to.

I say "slosh", if I was cheerier about the subject, I'd say it "drained" water from around the beam that supports......etc. etc.

When I had all that delamination this year I spend literally hours poking my fingers into little mucky boat orifices, and I discovered that half of them don't go where we think they go.

I ALSO discovered that the fairly rough "bottom of the sump" which sure LOOKS like the to of the hull skin, is in fact NOT the hull and there's space between the bottom of the sump (which is part of the liner) and the top of the hull skin. They're not bonded together. S.F. boatworks injected a load of polyester filler in there for me, to try to tie them together, but they weren't very encouraging.

At any rate, there's apparently all SORTS of room in there for water to slosh around in.

At any rate, the truth of the matter is that if your sump is day, that is no indication about the overall dryness of the inside of the boat. You might have 2-5 gallons of agua making the rounds between the liner and the hull.

This is the LAST boat I own with a hull liner, that's for damn sure.

Alan

 and On Thu, 6 Dec 2001 11:44:15 -0800
 Steve Hutchinson <Shutchinson@dutragroup.com> wrote:
> I poked around last night with my mini-mag and couldn't
> find a path
> for the area to drain. It looked to me like there's a
> full height transverse
> web that would block water from running forward into the
> sump. There are
> also no limber holes like the ones that drain the settees
> into the sump from
> the sides. If I am right (and I hope I'm not) these voids
> could hold a
> significant amount of water weight. Perhaps some
> exploratory drilling is in
> order...
>
> Steve <<s30-30_interior.bmp>>
Received on Thu Dec 6 16:25:00 2001




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