Re: 2000 membership location breakdown

From: William E. Vosteen <monroe1_at_monroe-electronics.com>
Date: Thu 18 May 2000 - 02:46:37 PDT
To: olson30@SailPix.com


I'm sure this has been talked about, but you can have another beakdown of membership and have those who want hard copies of the Mainsheet mailed to them to pay a premium. Another great way to have a newsletter financed is to have a sailmaker(s) pay for ads which would cover the printing and mailing. This would be incredibly cheap for a sailmaker to target a competitive group such as us. The only problem is to have someone in the club to do the footwork to get a sponsor or list of sponsor's. I take care of a Great Lakes Olson 30 newsleter myself & send it out to about 15 people. Once in a while I get some financial support, but most of the time its just a labor of love.
Bill Vosteen
----- Original Message -----
From: surfari <yhtlines@surfari.net>
To: olson <Olson30@sailpix.com>
Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2000 1:21 AM
Subject: Fw: 2000 membership location breakdown

> yes, Roger, this seems to be a recurring issue. Folks tend to only sign up
> with the association when the nationals is in their area. And we have
heard
> Nick's comments on the association's usefulness to out of area owners,
loud
> and clear. Go fast tips, etc. The class does seem to be alive and well,
> and active, just not one to be constrained by membership or dues!
>
> This association is considerably looser than other one design fleets, for
> several reasons, always has been, probably always will be. Others, like
the
> J24, require area sail offs, to qualify for the nationals, so people have
to
> pay association dues to be able to compete all year. Whereas we are
totally
> voluntary on payment, unless you are going to race the nationals.
>
> We've been asking around to see if there is some way to join the
electronic
> age....like carry advertising on our web page or email sends. Some way to
> recoup some of our other expenses via this free service. (any ideas?).
>
> We sent out the spring newsletter, and it had a lot of year end wrap ups
in
> it. Alas, till now, the paying west coast members and Great Lakes members
> wanted to see that information. By the time we went to press, we had a
full
> issue of that, and decided to save 'how-tos' for the next one. We spent
some
> good money on the Mainsheet. The cost to print and mail each copy was
about
> $1.50. We could do that slightly cheaper, but not much. And we printed
and
> sent over 170 copies. We have that many owners, crew, sailmakers, riggers
> and what not registered on our roster. But only 30 some who carry the
> entire paying burden. (I don't have a count right now of how many paid up
> associates).
>
> We are confused as to which way to go with the printed mainsheet, many
> readers want hard copy to show around and enjoy, whereas others like the
web
> page scenario. However we cannot with our limited budget afford to do a
> free gross mailing again. We did pickup "out of area" (oustide of
> California/Washington) owners as new members, with the free mailing,
> actually enough new owners to pay for the last mailing. Thank you, new
> members!
>
> We'd like to hear what people want to hear and see....and find useful. We
> hear loud and clear, "how-to's" "go fast", "what works" etc. Now just
to
> pry those secrets out of owners. Many are willing to help, but others are
> reluctant, for what others may think, or .....giving their hard earned
> secrets away. Do we want a mailed newsletter, or just on the web page?
> Should we take all the good stuff on the web page, make it pass word
> accessible, and hand out monthly codes to paid up members? Or restrict
> access to the email list? We are in a changing time, and do not yet know
> where to go. Also...membership, while having its priveleges, also has its
> price.
>
> (Hmm, a very small group of us paid up members have been talking about
> potential design and performance problems caused by the original supplied
> under-deck to mast jumper/turnbuckle thingy. I'm sure there is another
just
> as secretive group, that has already solved this?).
> Dave
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Roger Anderson <randerson@secor.com>
> To: 'surfari' <yhtlines@surfari.net>; 'olson' <Olson30@sailpix.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2000 4:36 AM
> Subject: RE: 2000 membership location breakdown
>
>
> > WOW!
> >
> > Is that ever disappointing. A total of 13% of the fleet is represented
and
> > of that, 22% are out on there own with nobody to play with (making some
> > assumptions).
> >
> > Dave, I think it would also be interesting on how may people are signed
up
> > on the list server (have some interest in the Olson 30) and historical
> > numbers on the class associations population. I know the listing that
was
> > included in one of the two newsletter I have received had significantly
> more
> > members listed. Where did they all go? Do they not care about the
fleet?
> > Is the fleet done something to piss-off many members? Is the class on
> it's
> > last leg? Should I call Waste Management and have them pick up the Wind
> > Spirit and put her to bed in the Muskegon landfill? This would make for
an
> > interesting article for the next news letter (I think).
> >
> > Fair Winds (I hope),
> >
> > Roger
> >
> > Olson 30, Wind Spirit, #130
> > Lightning, Red Shift, #14024
> >
> >
> > Roger S. Anderson, P.G.
> > SECOR International Inc.
> > (517) 349-9499
> > (517) 349-6863 fax
> >
> > randerson@secor.com
> > www.secorlansing.com/main.htm
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-olson30@sailpix.com [mailto:owner-olson30@sailpix.com]On
> > Behalf Of surfari
> > Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2000 10:05 PM
> > To: olson
> > Subject: 2000 membership location breakdown
> >
> >
> > Folks, thought you would be interested in seeing where our "Active"
> members
> > live:
> >
> > SoCal----11
> > SF Bay ---4
> > Santa Cruz--2
> > WA--------2
> > VA--------2
> > NY--------2
> > MI---------1
> > GA--------1
> > OR--------1
> > TX--------1
> > MD-------1
> > ID---------1
> > and lastly, but not last in our hearts, Canada--------1 MOF!
> > ------------------------------------------------------------
> > total 35 paid active members--we're sure to get another ten before the
> > nationals.
> >
> > One of the advantages of this roster is that we can see how to orient
the
> > newsletter etc.
> >
> > Dave
> >
>
Received on Thu May 18 00:25:39 2000




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